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This traders first week trading Jay's system, week just past   7-19-10 through 7-23-10

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10:49] Jay Wireman: how many ticks this week
[10:49] charles ........ : 370  !!!
[10:50] Jay Wireman: with the rules
[10:50] charles .....: : yes
[10:50] Jay Wireman: great start
[10:50] Jay Wireman: keep up it
[10:50] charles boo : u know with the email i just sent u I could have made more - a lot more - please look at it - this has happened several times to me
[10:51] Jay Wireman: thats ok its your first week
[10:51] charles ..... oh i am very happy
[10:51] Jay Wireman: the more screen time you get the easier the patterns will stick out
[10:51] Jay Wireman: key is screen time and repeating the patterns(setups)
[10:51] Jay Wireman: great job
[10:53] Jerel Jerel: AWESOME
[10:53] Jerel Jerel: 1 WEEK AND HIS FIRST DAYS HERE
[10:53] charles ..... : thnks my main problem is holding the trade
[10:54] Jerel Jerel: MAN, YOU ARE DOING GREAT
[10:54] Steve ........ : Charles you using 2 contracts?
[10:54] charles ........ : y steve 370 ticks is singular ticks
[10:55] Jerel Jerel: WELL DONE
[10:55] Steve ........ : Great job Charles!
[10:57] charles ........ : oh yes - run to the bank
[10:58] Jerel Jerel: :)


Today!   7-29-10    Trade Room Chat
[12:04] Marshall  ........        : there you go Ken
[12:04] Marshall  ........      : get out!
[12:04] Jay Wireman: sp500 target hit another killer sp500 day
[12:04] Jay Wireman: im all out
[12:04] Chris ........      :   sweet
[12:05] Marshall  ........      : "you nailed it" man!!
[12:05] Jay Wireman: 23 points
[12:05] Marshall ........      : monster!!
[12:05] Jay Wireman:  thanks marshall
[12:05] Marshall ........      :  my pleasure..I'll def become a member
[12:06] Jay Wireman: great Marshall we welcom you
[12:06] mobile trader: pretty impressive!  1 contract 8pts
[12:06] Jay Wireman: how many points did you get
[12:06] Jay Wireman: nice Lowell
[12:06] Jay Wireman: just stick to my rules
[12:06] Chris ........        :8.5 pts
[12:07] Jay Wireman: nice Chris

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[14:04] Charles ……       : having an ok week up 210  not my record but still paying the bills
[14:04] Jay Wireman: checks in the mail joey
[14:04] Jay Wireman: u did not get it lol
[14:04] Joey ……    .: I'll come by and pick it up
[14:04] Jay Wireman: your slacking 210 ticks
[14:04] charles ……       …: yep
[14:04] Jay Wireman: keep it up buddy
[14:05] charles ……       …: had out of town company yesterday so no trading
[14:05] Jay Wireman: gotcha
541 Ticks - Trading just one of Jay's setups 'The Triangle Squeeze'.   Done early.


[16:26] Peter …             ..: thx so much Jay for getting me up to date on today’s trades
[16:26] Jay Wireman: any time peter little screen time and u will be great
[16:26] Peter : lookin forward to it
[16:28] George …             .. : Hey,Jay can you tell Jerel  I'll get of hold of him in Oct. to renew my subscription. I'm going into hiding for a month in the U.P. of Michigan bear hunting. Been packing for three days. thanks for financing my trip ! lol
[16:30] Jay Wireman: nice george good luck
[16:30] Jay Wireman: just email him when u get back buddy
[16:30] Jay Wireman: go get some bears
[16:30] george …             ..: ty Jay for all the help!
[16:31] Jay Wireman: anytime man cya in October
[16:32] george ……             : +541 ticks for month  w/2 contracts.
[16:34] Jay Wireman: nice buddy
[16:34] george …             .. : see ya later


Early morning 160 ticks on 9-10-10,   ‘Done for day’.


[7:27] Jay Wireman: nice sweet spot trade on ad
[7:27] Jay Wireman: new monthly and weekly numbers will be updated on Sunday night
[7:28] Jay Wireman: due to the rollover
[7:29] Jan ….           . : up over 160 ticks today this morning on ec and bp
[7:29] Jay Wireman: nice Jan
[7:30] Jan …               : started 1.20 with bp short
[7:30] Jay Wireman: very nice
[7:32] Jay Wireman: what short setup was the bp at 1.20
[7:32] Jan …               : triangle under inst number
[7:32] Jay Wireman: let me look
[7:33] Jay Wireman: yep textbook sweet spot triangle trade very nice
[7:33] Jay Wireman: that was a dual inst. breakdown sweet spot
[7:34] Jan …           ..: then there was a long sweetspot from green, low of the day
[7:34] Jay Wireman: now u see why its my favorite trade
[7:35] Jay Wireman: they love to push the market away from those levels
[7:36] Jan ….            .: and a long ec triangle trade with 5 min trend which went to 2740 from 2670
[7:37] Jan …            .. works like a dream, beginning to understand and get the trades
[7:53] Jay Wireman: great  Jan  keep it up buddy!


9-7-10  50 to 52 tick trades, just another day.

Ronald …  …… : nice Paul
[9:27] Peter  : vn Paul
[9:27] Steve ………: thank you sir   GO BUCKEYES
[9:28] Kevin … .: Good Job Paul
[9:28] Jeff : Inst. to Inst. Jay....+52 on that one
[9:28] Ronald ……  …: yea
[9:28] Jay Wireman: thanks for coming to work on the es, ec and Aussi
[9:28] Paul ……     …: +50 ticks
[9:28] Jay Wireman: nice Jeff
[9:28] Jay Wireman: nice Paul
[9:28] Alex …        ……: What are the white dots?
[9:28] Jeff …: way to go Paul
[9:28] Paul ……    …  : I'd say that's a good morning
[9:28] Paul ……    …: thanks guys
[9:28] Jay Wireman: yes it is
[9:28] Jay Wireman: not even 930 yet
[9:29] Jay Wireman: what white dots Alex
[9:29] Jeff  …: I do like this job!
[9:29] Jay Wireman: job Jeff this is fun
[9:29] Jay Wireman: lol
[9:29] Paul ……    …: lol


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9-14-10 - 50 Ticks, 94 ticks, 54 Ticks, 121 Ticks, 20 Ticks, not a bad morning, not even 11:30am Est., yet!

[9:47] Vaughn……: EC looking Great!
[9:48] Vaughn ……:: Took profit on EC
[9:49] Vaughn ……:: Yes Sir
[9:49] Vaughn ……:: Took Profit on BP Also
[9:49] Paul ……:: free trade on EC
[9:49] Vaughn ……:: Nice Paul
[9:50] Paul ……:: SL at BE +1
[9:50] Anthony ……:: go EC..
[9:51] Anthony ……:.: yes..break out on EC..
[9:51] Paul ……:: got in on EBook trade
[9:52] Paul ……:: added to it once it hit the zone again
[10:08] Vaughn ……:: 50 ticks today Jay
[10:08] Paul ……:: as long as you follow the rules you'll be good
[10:09] Terence ……:: Good Thanks and You?
[10:09] Paul ……:: nice Vaughn
[10:10] Paul ……:: just got out of the EC with about 85 ticks
[10:12] Paul ……:: up 94 ticks today
[10:13] Greg ……:: if the BP prints a 9 above the 40 will it be a re entry
[10:20] Greg ……:: up +54 tics on BP
[10:40] Jesus ……:: Jay I like to say something This is the Best room on earth, I been in several rooms
[10:42] Greg ……:: Jesus, I'm with you, best methodology  I've seen, seen a lot
[10:42] Jesus ……:: Greg we are in good hands
[10:44] Vicki ……:: So Jay I got in on the next triangle with the 9 count on the 5 min got +19
[10:45] Vicki ……:: Thanks
[10:46] Jeff ……:: thanks Jay.......+67 on BP
[10:47] Jeff ……:: inst. to inst. once again
[10:47] Jesus ……:: Jay look that bar count on BP
[10:47] Greg ……:: +20 tics on the BP on re entry
[11:01] Jeff ……:: thanks for a great morning Jay....+121 today
[11:01] Jeff ……:: cya tomorrow
[11:06] Paul ……:: very informative...great set ups

Thanks for coming to work!
[10:46] jesus  …………..  : for all trial dont miss this oportunity singup, i am for 6 month
[10:46] john …………..: any blue light specials for newbies??
[10:46] Venu …………..Thank you Jay, for the trial.
[10:46] Jerel Jerel: anyone with any questions please contact me at jerel@daytradingthefutures.com and I will do my best.
[10:46] Venu …………..Really enjoyed it.
[10:46] Carlos …………..: great teacher and systems thanks
[10:46] Jerel Jerel: We are grateful to have had you all with us this week
[10:46] john …………..lol
[10:46] Jerel Jerel: 'Thank you all
[10:46] Noly …………..: Thank you
[10:47] Peter …………..: i agree Jesus    this is the best thing i've ever done
[10:47] Jon …………..: thank you, will be signing up
[10:47] Jerel Jerel: anyone with any questions please contact me at jerel@daytradingthefutures.com and I will do my best.
[10:47] Venu…………..: what is your email address?
[10:47] wieslaw …………..Thanks Jay &Jerel
[10:47] el …………..: Thank-you, Jay.  Good nite everyone.
[10:47] Jay Wireman: wireman underscore @yahoo.com
[10:47] Jerel Jerel: Thank Wieslaw
[10:48] K. …………...: Natural Gas Approching Zone
[10:48] jesus …………..: i spent over 50k in education in last 2 years and never found nothing like this, this is the best
[10:48] Anna .: Thanks and good night.
[10:48] Jerel Jerel: GN Anna
[10:48] Jerel Jerel: Excellent Jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[10:48] Jerel Jerel: Anyone with any questions please contact me at jerel@daytradingthefutures.com and I will do my best.
[10:48] ronald…………..: can we get another 70+ game jay


"I spent over 50k in education in last 2 years & never found anything like this, this is the best."

[10:13] Scott ……  ..  : ok, a close below the low
[10:13] Al ……  ..  : out at 15 !
[10:13] Peter ……  ..  : got it
[10:13] John ……  ..  .: Nice one on the BP!
[10:13] ronald ……  ..  : i got out at sym dots
[10:13] Scott ……  ..  : so the pull in bar requires a close, not just a penetration
[10:13] Jeff ……  ..  : +26
[10:13] Venu ……  ..  : Jay onthe BP short, would you have exited at cyan dots or blue dots with only 1-contract ?
[10:14] jesus ……  ..  : jay bp miss the weekly by 1 tick
[10:14] ronald ……  ..  : exit at dots with 1 contract
[10:14] Venu ……  ..  : so ronald, that would be cyan dots inthis case, right?
[10:14] Al ……  ..  : ec will be long?
[10:14] ronald ……  ..  : y
[10:15] Venu ……  ..  : thanks, ROnald and Jay
[10:15] George ……  ..  : Out @ 20. What a Day! Another 25 Pips... My Bag is more than full for today :-)))) I go to make a Party -also on Paper...
[10:15] George……  ..  : ?
[10:15] Paul ……  ..  : +37 ticks on BP
[10:15] George ……  ..  Only Counts - a great Feeling!
[10:15] Jeff ……  ..  : Good job Paul!
[10:15] jesus ……  ..  : how will you play this sweet spot now on BP
[10:15] George ……  ..  : Dont need other Things
[10:15] Paul ……  ..  : thanks Jeff
[10:15] Peter ……  ..  : +31 on bp


Keep it simple and stick to the rules!
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[8:30] jesus ……….  : hi guys, venu let me tell you i am in the same boat, i been tryng about 15 different rooms and this is the best
[[9:12] Vaughn .: I wouldn't have thought in a million years that there was a system that you could get pips in every singel day..This is amazing
[9:12] Paul ……….: tell me about it
[9:12] Paul ……….: I've spent soo much money on crap
[9:12] Vaughn .: I've been in a bunch of horrible systems over the last 5 years since I started
[9:17] Vaughn .: Right...I had to filter out a lot of toxic waste from the other trading systems
[9:18] Vaughn .: Another thing is how Awesome it is for someone just starting out to make it to this system!
[9:19] Paul ……….: wish I knew about this system a few years ago
[9:19] Vaughn .: Thats almost like buying my first lottery ticket and it being the powerball winner!
[9:19] Paul ……….: exactly
[9:19] Paul ……….: could've saved my money and headaches

I wouldn't have thought in a million years that there was a system that you could get pips, every single day. This is amazing!

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